What customers have to say about us:
"Jay,
Sorry I took so long to write this note but it has been a very busy week for us.
I just wanted to take a few minutes to thank you for you hospitality and instruction on how to "really" shoot a rifle. It is not often that I am impressed with people who teach others because I did technical instruction for many years in the oil and gas business and typically have a hard time listening to others teach me about anything. I always show up with an open mind but they lose me quickly because they are usually not really experts in their field or they are poor communicators. My experience with you was totally different!!!
You obviously knew your business very well and had a your entire course with us laid out in advance with milestones and successes for us along the way to motivate us. You were able to keep us engaged the entire two day session and had us wanting more! I have not learned so much new stuff in many years in such a short period of time. My expectations for myself were pretty low as I have never thought of myself as a "Good Shooter" with a rifle. I have been shooting a rifle for over 40 years and realized that I didn't know much about how to do it correctly. I thought my old "hunter grip" on the rifle was they way to do it. Boy was I wrong!
My confidence has grown more than you can measure. Your simple step by step process of getting ready for the shot made a huge difference in my shooting ability. I went from thinking there would be no way that I could make the long shots to realizing that if I follow the routine, hitting the target was entirely possible, even probable. That is a major change for this "Old Dog". I was entertained by you when you knew I was doing something wrong and all you had to do was stare at me, get me to focus on the routine, and I would make the shot. Brilliant!!!! I guess "Old Dogs" can learn new tricks! Too bad I don't have you to stare at me all the time, ha!
Without a doubt, I will be coming back for more instruction and try to improve even more. You have sparked a fire in me for long range shooting that I will have for the rest of my life.
Thank you so much for your patience, straight talk, fellowship, and sharing your wealth of knowledge. I highly recommend your course to anyone that wants to really learn to shoot. I will most likely bring my 82 year old Dad next time and see if you can teach an "Older Dog" how to shoot.
Joseph and I had a great time and have talked non stop about the experience. I have the flattened 50 cal. rounds on my desk and every time I look at them, I wish I was back at the range. We can't wait to do it again.
Please feel free to post this on your web site.
Thanks again,
Dean H."
"I'm so glad Jeren got home and did most of the typing - I echo all his thoughts. Jay "Cowboy" Ruby and Chuck "Ice Man" were just awesome. Chuck is the toughest man that I know!
Training Synopsis:
Intro:
The Training session at North Texas Precision Rifle was a Christmas gift to my sons: Jeren and Josh. Ok, couldn't pass up a chance to train with Jay again so I tagged along. Josh and I had been to a mini training - a range day that my nephew had won at a match and I have been to a training session previously. Jeren had not been to a training session at NTRP. All of us have shot in Texas Precision Rifle and PRS matches so none of us were completely newbies. Jeren and I were carrying new rifles for the 2013 season.
Training:
Jay begins his sessions with a 5 shot string at a 100 yd target - the only instruction is shoot the smallest group that you can. The purpose of this is the evaluation of your manipulation of the rifle, i.e the fundamentals. After this exercise, your performance is evaluated and discussed. This gives Jay the information to determine where issues exist and where to start you're individual training. It is important to note that even there were three of us there; Jay treated the training as if you were there all by yourself. From previous training, Jay does an exceptional job of modifying the training to fit the individual.
Another note - because all three of us have shot and competed: after the five shot exercise we were given the next two pieces of information:
1) Because we had experience: all exercises that were normally performed at 300 would use the same size target at 500.
2) And that: " All Excuses have the effective range of zero." "If you miss; we are going to stop and you are going to tell me why you missed and I don't know is not an answer."
Point number 2 was the highlight,most helpful and enlightening part of our training session in my opinion. Again it demonstrates how Jay modifies his training to the individual. During both days, Jay held true to his word - if you missed; you better have an explanation! Under Jay's watchful eye he listened to your explanation and offered anything that he saw during the exercise. With the experience level that the three of us have - this was unbelievably helpful.
At the end of Day One - you have the night fire exercise. As always - it reinforces that importance of a good position and is just awesome to hit targets even after the lights go out. But shooting with my boys - what is even more awesome to to have the lights go out, hear three rifle reports and see three splashes ( sparks off the targets)down range. That is truly awesome!
Day Two - begins with another cold bore; in this case a Frozen Bore shot. Wind and environmentals had a big affect this day. Most of the day was dedicated to barricade work. Again, when things got too easy - Jay put us under time constraints that we would see in competitive matches. Another example of how Jay constantly modifies his training to meet the needs and ability of the client.
Conclusion:
I can not say enough about the quality of training or the facilities. Anyway you look at it - they are first rate. If you have training planned; strongly consider NTPR for your training needs. Spending the weekend shooting with my sons - priceless!
Thanks Jay.
Jim H"
"This past weekend three members of the Franklin Militia went for a training session at NTRP. My dad has trained with Jay before and he knew what to expect, however, I did not. I have taken several other firearms classes and I always try to approach training with an open mind so that I can get the most out of it. That being said, I was very impressed with the amount of knowledge and the presentation of that knowledge this weekend. It's like a light bulb automatically kicked on after listening to Jay explain things and then apply them. The way he worked with us, broke the information down Barney style for us slower individuals, and made it easy to understand was second to none. Overall I had a great time and I feel much more confident in my abilities to drive my rifle.
Here's how it went:
Saturday-
We started at about 0800 with a verification of our zero. We then discussed the fundamentals of building a solid position, "breathe in, breathe out, straight back and hold," and we covered the wind/mirage. We did several exercises to make sure we understood the importance of getting solid on the rifle. I found that I did this crazy thing with my strong hand grip and trigger manipulation. We got it mostly worked out after Jay threatened to beat me with a Dewey rod if I did it again. Fear is a great motivator! I found that this was causing me to push the rounds to the right and magically when I went straight on the trigger they appeared on target. Go figure. Next we started collecting dope for our rifles out to 1350 which is the longest distance I have ever shot. I had a third round hit at 1350 on a 20"x20" plate. I call that a win for me because the wind was kicking my tail all day. After that we went to work on the barricades and some timed events to see how we did with that stress. I quickly learned that I had not been getting the best positions possible in the past. For example, using the barricade and squaring my body to help drive the rifle. I learned many, many valuable things during this portion of training. Through working with Jay, my weaknesses became very apparent and then through instruction I saw them become less and less. This finished out the daylight part and then we moved into the night fire. During this I saw how the good solid position worked because I got several hits after the light went out. The first time I did this was pretty cool because all I saw was the sparks down range in my scope. I would pay for the class again just to get to the night fire part.
Sunday-
I woke up sore and tired but ready to get on the range. We started off with the cold bore shot and the term "cold" does not do it justice. It was about 30 degrees and a wind chill of close to 24. We were all chilled but we proned out and with Chuck on the scope in his Tactical Artic Cargo Shorts we started sending rounds. The wind had shifted and was causing the rounds to impact a little low due to the billowing tail wind thus showing me the effects of wind even at short distances. Best piece of advice on wind, "Think of it as water and how water would flow over the area where you shoot." After the cold bore we went to some center mass flapper work. I really enjoyed these flappers and the challenge of the wind while trying to get these center mass hits. After that we went to work on some more barricades and the improvised positions that can get you just as solid as traditional ones. I enjoyed learning these new positions because they encouraged thinking outside the box but made perfect sense. I was surprised at how I was able to achieve successful hits out to 500 using these positions. After that he opened all of the range up to us to work on whatever we wanted. I used this time to hit the barricades that gave me the most trouble and to work on my off side shooting from those barricades. That concluded our training.
Things I learned-
1. Trust your gut instinct because if it isn't right then it is probably close.
2. Practice like you want to shoot.
3. Concentrate on the fundamentals and your Pre-Flight checks because these will help you in all shooting.
4. "Don't be afraid to miss."
I learned a lot more than that but these are the things that I think will help everyone. I learned a lot of personal things like body position, grip on the rifle, how I approach the rifle, etc that will effect everyone else differently. I would never have found these had Jay not pointed them out.
As I said before, this training was like none I have had in the past and with Jay's instruction I saw vast improvement in my shooting. Thank you Jay and Chuck on helping us out and we appreciated all the time/effort put into it. If you have a chance to go see Jay then I encourage you to do so. You will not regret it.
Jeren H."
"Great training day NTRP. Top quality facility & top notch training. The tips you gave me on reloading and tactical carbine (while we were shooting the sh*t on a break) was worth the fee alone. Looking forward to April! Thanks mate.
Paul R."
"A couple of months ago I signed up for a NTRP training class at the recommendation of a few folks; my goal is to attend a few different training classes and getting various viewpoints and learn techniques from shooters/instructors that are reputable. Either thru word of mouth or seeing them at matches, etc. NTRP with Jay was my first class.
My goals were simple. I want to become competitive, not just attend matches. I’d like to sell for more than $9.99 (or hell be willing to bet on myself) at a Calcutta. I knew I had to begin to break all the bad habits I knew I had, and the ones I didn’t know I had needed to be identified since I was self taught on all of this long-range shooting.
We started off the first night setting up the range, generating a computer-modeled dope chart (I use shooter) and then verifying it to real-world data. I usually shoot within 700 yards or less and the dope on shooter is pretty much within +/- 0.1 but as we begin to stretch out past 700 to 1350 it became evident that I need to tweak shooter (MV, BC, etc..) because the real-world numbers started varying by up to a mil and more than real-world data. (Shooter was putting me higher and higher than I needed to be)
If any of you saw me at the first club match I looked like a monkey fucking a football on the barricades; all of my practice had always been prone and I was shooter #2 (Behind Elpers) and I didn’t get to watch and absorb other peoples position… Jay spent a lot of time with me looking at barricades and talking thru some things to look for to build your position properly. Looking back I would have shot almost every barricade I’ve been on differently.
We went thru the typical situations like shooting sitting, kneeling, weak side and how to put together a mental checklist before you make your shot. This made a big difference to my ADD and helped slow me down and keep focused on the shot I was taking and not worrying about the next shot. 2 hits are always better than 5 misses.
After some of the basics were out of the way we spent time talking and looking at ways to use the rifle to your advantage on certain barricades and then put that into practice shooting his rooftop, various concrete barricades, the car, etc…. The whole time the heat index was about 108 with no wind so we used portable ez-ups to try and bring some shade where possible.
I learned a lot and need to practice to reinforce it all which is why I am so grateful to the TxPRC monthly matches and I continue to build new barricades and put them at the local range I have access too. I will spend another weekend with Jay for sure and will take training at other places as well to get different perspectives and see other facilities but I would have no problem at all recommending anyone to Jay’s facility.
The whole time was very cooperative. I told Jay when it was time to move on to a new topic and I told Jay to hold up while we went back and re-inforced or tweaked that lesson. He let me drive the tempo and pace which was a huge benefit of the one on one training. I never would have been able to tell a whole class to chill out while I went back and re-ran something or to hurry them past something that I had a good grasp on.
Again, all in all no complaints at all and I would have no problem at all recommending this class to anyone looking to get some initial education or a veteran looking to go hone in on some skills.
David D."
"It's been several months since I attended the training at NTRP, but I've done my best to stay in practice with the fundamentals learned during the courses. I posted in the Hunting Section after I realized that lessons learned with my bolt gun translated to better handling of my shotgun during turkey season. Well, once again, I wanted to inform anyone that might be on the fence about attending training with CKA that I saw real results from attending the training. I recently attended annual in-service for my job and I saw definite improvement in my long gun & pistol handling during qualification. I have been doing this since I was 21 and have always held my own shooting for score, but I saw how lessons learned with my bolt gun helped my form and trigger control with all my weapons. You have nothing to lose and a whole lot to gain by spending a weekend with CKA." John in LA
"This was an outstanding weekend - a nephew of mine won a range day with Jay at North Texas Rifle Precision and I was fortunate enough to be asked to tag along. Jay and his operation are nothing short of exception and is only overshadowed by Jay's personally and passion for long range tactical shooting.
While this was not a formal training class; Jay took the five of us throught basic fundamentals and with the goal of getting dope for our rifles. There was a personal review and recommendations for body position, trigger finger and hand position and breathing. After about an 30 minutes we began working out to the 750 mark. As a personal note, I am very new to this type of shooting and 400 had been about my personal limit. Using the techniques and fundametals under Jay's watchful eye - I got solid dope to the 750 line.
After lunch, we returned to the range and began to work at the 1000 yd tower. It seemed like in very short order, all of us had worked out to a 1000. I'll have to admit, it was something that I had alway wanted to accomplish and hitting the 8" plate at that range was unbelievable. After we had established our dope; Jay opening the line to engage targets at any range. It was during this time Jay slung his 260 from the sitting and hit the 8" plate at 1000. After seeing that, I couldn't stand it so I gave it a shot. With Jay's help, I was sucessful at the 700 and 800 yd targets but that damn 8" is still safe today.
I will highly recommend Jay & NTRP to anyone looking for quality trigger time and instruction. I will be going back for a class & that 8" plate is history!
Jay - Thanks again. It was a great time." - Jim H.
"Thank you for the review and your hospitality CKA. Andrew and I had a great time.
We both learned a lot and I have been working on the techniques you showed us (especially after observing your skills with a pistol at 300 yards).
Just like Chuck Norris, what most people consider rifle range, CKA considers pistol range.
You are a true professional, put on a great course, and have an outstanding facility. I look forward to watching your business grow." Nick and Andrew from San Francisco, CA
"I have been shooting for many years and have received formal training with pistol, shotgun and semi-auto rifles through my job. A few years back, I bought a .308 bolt gun with the intentions of learning the craft and loading my own rounds. Of late, I seemed to have hit a plateau and just wasn't satisfied anymore with learning by my own mistakes. Last October, I made the commitment to myself to seek out some formal instruction and finally see if I could gain some ground.
I looked around and read multiple reviews online and in magazines about a formal precision rifle training course. I was looking for something that was reputable, semi-local (within reasonable driving distance) and in my price range. My research lead me to one of our fellow Hide members training at North Texas Rifle Precision. Of course, since becoming a member of this forum, I had seen his humorous posts and frequent ban sessions. One thing I noticed after speaking to him on the phone about the possibility of attending his training was that Jay (NTRP-CKA) knew his craft and had no instructor complex.
I signed up for the Precision Rifle 1 and Precision Rifle 2 courses and locked in the last weekend in January. I spoke to CKA several times by PM and on the phone ensuring that I had all of the gear that I needed for the courses. He talked to me about my equipment and verified that my hand-loads were sufficient to reach max distance. I arrived in the afternoon on Friday and CKA took me on a tour of his facility and we reviewed his steel target locations. Everything was loose and he fell in with the kind of guys that I run with at work. The first training morning, his demeanor remained loose, but his dedication to safe training in a professional manner was evident. He still kept you at ease, without compromising safety.
Our first rounds down range verified my zero. He adjusted my scope location and we started on the fundamentals. I had a bad run and was about to take up golf, when he got my mind right and within a couple of hours, I was on target at 750 and 1000 yards. It was nothing magic. He showed me how to overcome 30+ years of mistakes and bad habits. I was truly amazed at how much I progressed in a short time by having someone move me in the right direction. There are numerous targets to engage, that keep you challenged.
I would highly recommend attending the training at NTRP to anyone who is wanting to show improvement in your shooting or to anyone who is starting new. The number one reason that training is a success or failure is dependant upon the student. If you cannot become comfortable enough to allow yourself to learn, you won't succeed in your endeavor." John G. from New Orleans, LA
“Just wanted to give a very positive public thumbs up for Jay(CKA) and North Texas Rifle Precision. I got to take the steel on target class last friday and managed to learn more in about 8 hours of shooting then I have in the past year and a half of trying to figure stuff out on my own.
Showed up early but the fog kept us from starting for an hour or so. Instead we decided to BS a little bit and check the basics of form both body and trigger finger/hand.
About 9am the fog cleared and we decided to go hot. The first half hour of shooting was disappointing as I couldn't connect at 200 yards which should have been cake. We double checked my zero which was bit off and double checked my chrono numbers and then got set back up on the MSTOMP. After that it was bang and clang time.
Its really is neat to know that in the morning I was having trouble seeing my hits even at the 400 yard target and by the end of the day was able to see hits at 200 easily even when doing rapid fire strings!
Anyhow we engaged steel from 200 out to 750 which is 250 yards farther than I've ever shot before! He has a nice setup of targets, some reactive with hostage or center mass flappers and some basic lollipops and steel squares.
We eventually proceeded to positional shooting. Sitting, Kneeling, and Standing and was able to make consistent hits at 200 yards from all positions. I've never had a chance to do much positional shooting before and one on one instruction far exceeded my ability to get the ideas from books and online.
Once my hand hurt enough and my arms were a little shaky we decided to set up for the infamous golf ball shot. I honestly didn't think I had much hope for smacking this thing at 750 but the angels smiled the stars aligned and I center punched the little bugger! To make it even sweeter we actually found the bullet that hit the golfball! I know this may seem a little gimmicky to some but it really helped reinforce the idea of aim small miss small. And for the next hour or so when I'd flub the occasional shot I was reminded that I just punched a golfball at 750 so there was no excuse for missing at the shorter ranges!
We then ran some quick fire drills as well as move and shoot type drills to introduce me to some competitive shooting simulations as well as get the heart rate up. These had me running to the gun and shooting rapid fire prone then moving to the trailer and shooting prone/unsupported then sitting supported, standing supported, and then another run and sitting unsupported.
This was my first formal shooting course but Jay is the kind of guy that makes people feel comfortable immediately. My equipment was pretty basic but you quickly realize how important the Indian is instead of the arrow.
I'm missing allot but throughout the day we also discussed
Mil Ranging and using the Mildot master
Data books and what where to put in them
Wind reading using mirage as well as whatever else is available
Reloading
shooting equipment
and a ton of other stuff besides just pulling the trigger.
Anyhow thanks Jay for the great day and awesome instruction! I'm looking forward to doing it again! And for those of you on the fence dont worry just do it. I shot the day with a stock rem sps tactical and bushnell elite 4200 scope. Go with an open mind a full ammo bucket and learn!” Mike, Lewisville, TX
“Hey guys and gals wanted to give my props to CKA for my day at the range so here ya go.
First off, Jay treated me like I was a best buddy. (Only way I can describe it) he did not talk down to me just because he knows more about shooting than I do.... once I got up and running (ie warming up his steel) he gave me hell when I missed (like a buddy would) and would correct my observed mistakes.
My common miss was high left (caused by trigger slap) was fixed.. I shot very well for me when I got locked in. It took a whole can of SH SLAP OFF and a good swift kick in the ass for me to quit slapping the boom lever!
We shot prone, positional, timed stress postional. I learned a few tricks and applied them to making me a better marksman. By the end of the day I was locked in (and sore as hell). 325 total round count of .308
Conditions were windy as hell 10-20 all day, but I am actually thankful for that as I learned to make better calls and holdoffs because of it!
Equipment: .308 rem 700 sps trued in AICS CHASSIS. Nightforce NXS 5.5X22.
Handloads. TBAC 30P SUPPRESSOR.
And now for the finale......the golfball shot!
Wind required 3 moa left wind , 23.75 moa comeup for 760 yrd shot.
Jay on the spotter "send it". Boom. "Holy shit" Jay exclaimed "you just cold bored a golf ball @ 760 yards". I saw the ball skip off the dirt mound through my scope and almost shit myself!! We drove down and sure enough I grazed the side of it! (I knew I should have used BUTTER FLAVORED WINDCHEATER)
Anyways, one of my best days as a shooter......a little lucky too!
Thanks Jay for your time and making a friend for life!” Clint D. Rusk, TX
“I had a chance to take NTRP's full weekend course and I cannot recommend it enough. Below is a short review.
Day 1
All the boring and tedious tasks required to be successful on day two including; Chamber measurement, brass trimming, chamfering, deburring, bullet and powder selection, charge throwing, COAL, and seating depth. Jay has all the tools to make this process precise and quick as well as the tools you and I use. We loaded up 150 rounds, 50 for ladder testing and 100 for target
Day 2
Awesome! I'm a new shooter and this was my first time shooting prone. My group size started at about 1.5-1.75 and by the 3rd group was down to about .5 MOA. After ladder testing a bunch of loads we found one that was acceptable in both accuracy and velocity. Before the firing exercise we discussed trajectories, made a drop chart, and explored wind reading. Then we moved on to steel on target. With Jay's wind calls I shot 350, 580, 650 and 750 in a variable 20 mph wind without difficulty. And then there was the golf ball shot. I didn't hit it. I was all over it but not right on top of it. With the wind it was like the ball was being moved between shots, come to think of it I'm not entirely sure there wasn't a gopher out there moving the ball......f*ck that golfball.
As for the instructor; Jay's instruction is clear, concise, and respectful. He's a committed and dedicated instructor, even taking a day off work to complete the course when our original range day was postponed due to some errant tornadoes.
Bottom Line: You're reading this for a reason, lay your money down and take the course, you will not be disappointed.
Thanks again Bud.” Sean, Ft Worth, TX
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I have recently completed Jay's Reloading and Long Range Rifle 1 Course. And I have to say that it was beyond what I imagined. You start by getting to know Jay Ruby and if you have a pulse, you will like him immediately. Second, he will give you the standard Safety Briefing and his personal dos and don'ts. After that have your notebook, tape recorder, and memory ready because the information will come quickly. The speed of instruction is not a bad thing. We covered ground that was a refresher for me. He slowed down when we started crossing into the processes I was less familiar with. Though I set the new worlds record for the slowest reloading, but Jay didn't rush me or take over as often happens when someone that is experienced deals with someone who is not. I finished the Reloading Course with 200 rounds .308 and confident that I could go home and replicate what I learned on any caliber I own. That night Jay checked my rifle, scope, and gear for the next day. RANGE DAY.